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Info-Mac Digest Mon, 25 Jan 93 Volume 11 : Issue 19
Today's Topics:
[*] AppMaker 1.5.1 to 1.5.2 Upd
[*] AutoDoubler 2.0->2.0.1 Patch.hqx.Part1
[*] Brightness CDEV
[*] Central Point AntiVirus Update for CPRO trojan horse
[*] HierPopup 3.0
[*] Kiss and Laugh sounds
[*] MacSharewareCatalog
[*] MugShots Set #1 (Greyscale Star Trek Faces/Icons)
[*] Nisus PostScript Macros 1.1 (replaces 1.0)
[*] nsf flat-panel display pr
[*] polyominoes-40.cpt.hqx
[*] program submission
[*] Re: EPSF AFE translators
[*] Scrolling CDEV
[*] Send Script 1.0a2 -- BBEdit Extension
[*] SuperClock! 4.0.2.sit.hqx
[*] swan startupscreen
[*] Update Paul's-icons 1.0.1.hqx
$89 modem woes
(Q) 1-Bit Dual-Page SE/30 Card?
(Q) Music Const. Set from Electronic Arts
(Q) Using CuBase on MacClassic
[Q] Forcing color on a B&W Mac?
Accessing Clipper database on PC from Appletalk network
access pc
anyone know where this might be found?
Apple's Easy Open P.R.
Apple-Double file format (Q)
ATM 2.03 and System 7.1
Automatic Saving (Q)
Borland and the Mac
Catalog file corruption
cyberspace ?!
Develop vs. MacTech (formerly MacTutor)
Disappearing color in General Control Panel (A)
Disk First Aid vs. Norton Utilities
Ethernet number of Quadra
FileMaker Pro 2.0 Script Needed
Font menu and word processors
Formatter for Bering rm Drives
FTP novice problem...(Q)
FYI French Instruction Programs
Gatekeeper/AutoDoubler woes revisited
High-quality disks
IIvx or IIci, that is the question! (R)
Info-Mac Digest V11 #17
Info-Mac Digest V11 #18
Looking closer at the power-lock posting
looking for email addresses
Mac-in-Stock problems...
MacWarehouse German address....
Memory on the Quadra 700
Paranoia on the net
Pins & jacks on a Conner-40
PowerLock Problem (C)
Printer Questions...
Problems with Superclock 4.0.1 and Powerbook 100
Russian Version of System 7.0.1
Sad Mac :(
Second to Brian Saunders re GateKeeper
Subject lines (C)
Summary of Sad Mac Error codes
SuperClock! 4.0.1
SuperClock 4.0.1
The IIsi is no more????
Trailer for HyperCard XFCN
UNIX utility to convert BinHex 4.0 files
Word 5.0 printing graphics on StyleWriter
Word 5.1 and System 7.1
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Date: 20 Jan 1993 23:59:00 -0500
From: "Scott Bresnahan" <scott_bresnahan@terc.edu>
Subject: [*] AppMaker 1.5.1 to 1.5.2 Upd
AppMaker 1.5.1 to 1.5.2 Updater
1/15/93 4:27 PM
This file allows users of AppMaker 1.5.1 to update to
version 1.5.2.
--Scott Bresnahan
TERC
2067 Mass Ave., Cambridge MA 02140
Internet: scott_bresnahan@terc.edu
[Archived as /info-mac/app/app-maker-152-updater.hqx; 1024K]
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 13:29:29 PST
From: HarriRehnberg@salient.com (Salient Software)
Subject: [*] AutoDoubler 2.0->2.0.1 Patch.hqx.Part1
[Update autodoubler 200 to 201. -- Gordon]
[Archived as /info-mac/util/auto-doubler-201-updater.hqx; 240K]
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Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 13:35:47 EST
From: "Dieder B." <UGU00266@vm.uoguelph.ca>
Subject: [*] Brightness CDEV
here's a copy of the Brightness CDEV that seems to work on other computers
that don't 'naturally' have 'brightness' control. i.e. the IIsi, IIci, etc.
Just double click, and use the arrow keys (up, down, left, right), or the
number keys, 0-9 to set the brightness. Does not seem to set the PRAM, so
upon reboot, screen is at normal brightness. Works in 1,2,4,8 bit modes
so far as I can tell. (No reason why it shouldn't work in the higher modes
either). Don't remember where I got it from, but it was dated April something
1992.
D.
[Archived as /info-mac/cp/brightness.hqx; 9K]
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Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 18:35:59 -0600 (CST)
From: "Anthony F. Gaudiano II" <anthonyg@tenet.edu>
Subject: [*] Central Point AntiVirus Update for CPRO trojan horse
--0-572073800-727577003:#8402
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Howdy,
I am not affiliated with Central Point Software, so don't flame me if
these don't work. However, someone on Mac-L asked if someone with
connections on Applelink would post the update files to the Antivirus
part of the MacTools 2.0. Well here it is. Stuffit Lite, Stuffit
Expander, Unstuffit Deluxe, or Stuffit Deluxe required for this file. Enjoy.
Anthony F. Gaudiano II
SFASU Apple Student Rep.
Applelink: ST0503
Internet: Z_GAUDIANOAF@CCSVAX.SFASU.EDU
Tenet: anthonyg@formby.tenet.edu
[Archived as /info-mac/virus/mactools-defs-0193.hqx; 7K]
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 16:33:36 -0800
From: Jon Pugh <jpugh@apple.com>
Subject: [*] HierPopup 3.0
As usual, development comes in fits and bursts. I managed to catch some time
during the Niners/Dallas game while sitting in the bar at Alpine Meadows to
hack on my PowerBook. Yes, it was nerd city, although this young girl kept
looking over my shoulder and saying "That's fresh." I guess I'm getting old,
but at least I recognized the latest word for cool. I think. ;) Well,
being required by state law to root for the Niners, I had plenty of time to
hack some improvements into my popup menu XFCN. One was requested and one
was thought up by me (although later checking shows that Rinaldi does a
similar thing in his FullPopup but not as well) while sitting there trying
not to watch Steve Young throw it away (He's just no Joe Montana).
So, HPopupMenu now accepts the ID of a MENU resource in place of the menu
text for faster complicated static menus. This should speed things up some
on slower machines. I also added the ability to create menus of resources,
such as font and sound menus. Whereas Rinaldi's menu only allows you to
make a single popup of one resource, my menu allows you to stuff any number
of resource menus in any order and in the hierarchical menus too.
Plus, mine allows you to use the metacharacters ^>(! & / in the menu items,
as noted in the last release. If you are doing popup menus in Hypercard,
this is the external for you!
This is also on ftp.apple.com in /pub/pugh/hyperstuff/hierpopup.cpt.hqx
Jon
[Archived as /info-mac/card/x/hierpopup-30.hqx; 58K]
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Date: 21 Jan 93 04:39:30 EST
From: David.M.Tillinghast@Dartmouth.EDU
Subject: [*] Kiss and Laugh sounds
Here are two sounds: one a long, sloppy kiss, and the other the laugh that
followed. This is my first submission. Please be gentle.
-tig@dartmouth.edu
[Archived as /info-mac/sound/kiss-and-laugh.hqx; 86K]
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Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 19:15 EDT
From: STEIN78@WILMA.WHARTON.UPENN.EDU
Subject: [*] MacSharewareCatalog
The MacSharewareCatalog is a new offering from Insanely Great Software with
complete descriptions of top-quality shareware that can be ordered directly
from the catalog.
The first issue contains the following products:
Alias Director, File Buddy, TEXT <> ttro, & Finder Sets
Biorhythms 2
DOCMaker & GMC Calendar
MenuChoice & EasyKeys
Quotable Quotes & Delicious Desserts
System 7 Pack!
System 7 Pack! & Companion Pack!
System 7 Productivity & Fun Pack!
SuperFontPack
TownMeeting
The catalog was specially designed for on-screen viewing and is totally
self-contained in a DOCMaker document.
[Archived as /info-mac/demo/mac-shareware-catalog.hqx; 85K]
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 18:58:50 EDT
From: scooter@emunix.emich.edu (Todd McDaniel)
Subject: [*] MugShots Set #1 (Greyscale Star Trek Faces/Icons)
Info-Mac community-
Please find enclosed MugShots Set #1. These are icons of many
of your favorite Star Trek Characters (TOS, TNG & DS9!).
They are greyscale and 32-bit QuickDraw is required, as only the 8-bit and
disfigured 1-bit icons are featured.
Since all of these faces are (more or less) the property of Paramount
pictures, all I ask of those who download this file is that the send me a
short note over email!
Share and Enjoy!
Todd McDaniel
scooter@emunix.emich.edu
[Archived as /info-mac/misc/star-trek-icons.hqx; 65K]
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Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 18:44:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: DSOUTH@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Subject: [*] Nisus PostScript Macros 1.1 (replaces 1.0)
Dale's PostScript Macros for Nisus 1.1
Here is version 1.1 of my PostScript Macros for Nisus. The
macros implement postscript "backdrops" consisting of 72 or 100-point
type printed diagonally in light grey over the document. The macros
can be used to print backdrop text on just the first page or on
mulitple pages in a document. More than one backdrop can
be used in the same document. Macros for printing "PRELIMINARY",
"CONIFIDENTIAL", "REVISED" (with date & time), or any dialog-input
string are provided, along with a macro to remove all PostScript
backdrops from a document.
Version 1.1 makes it easier to modify the text printed by the macros
and improves the centering of dialog-entered text.
Also includes the required PostScript Escape font.
Freeware/E-mail-ware
Dale Southard
dsouth@uoft02.utoledo.edu
1/10/93
[Archived as /info-mac/app/nisus-dales-ps-macros.hqx; 12K]
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Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 22:55:29 -0600
From: cbrinson@nwu.edu (L.C. Brinson)
Subject: [*] nsf flat-panel display pr
This is an old press release from NSF, but one that I didn't see appear on
the virtual pages of info-mac. Here it is now.
Warren Kibbe cbrinson@nwu.edu GEnie: W.Kibbe AOL: WAKibbe
Title : RESEARCH BREAKTHROUGH FOR FLAT-PANEL DISPLAY DEVICES ANNOUNCED
[Archived as /info-mac/report/flat-display-panel-pr.txt; 5K]
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Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 11:14:25 PST
From: kevin@cse.lbl.gov (Kevin Gong)
Subject: [*] polyominoes-40.cpt.hqx
Polyominoes 4.0 is really three games in one. In game mode, you have a very
interesting strategy game in which you try to put the last piece on the
board.
The pieces can be flipped or rotated in any manner. With Version 4.0, you can
use any of the over 30 different boards, or create one of your own using the
Board Editor. In puzzle mode, you can try to place all the pieces on any of
the boards. In spanning puzzle mode, you try to span the board with the
fewest number of pieces. You can use pentominoes, tetrominoes, or trominoes.
The program keeps track of all of your best efforts.
Polyominoes is ShareWare, $7.00 registration fee. It should work on any
Macintosh with either System 6 or 7.
Major changes since version 3.0:
% Spanning puzzle (in addition to game and puzzle)
% Program keeps user statistics (for game, puzzle, and spanning puzzle)
% Larger boards (up to 12x20)
% High scores list
% Better rotate/flip interface
% Three different piece sets (pentominoes, tetrominoes, trominoes)
% Over 30 different boards
- kevin (kevin@cse.lbl.gov)
[Archived as /info-mac/game/polyominoes-40.hqx; 182K]
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Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 16:08:27 EST
From: walker@eplrx7.es.duPont.com (Scott Walker)
Subject: [*] program submission
Hi y'all,
This is a driving simulator put out by Ford a few years ago. It
lets you drive selected Ford models on three tracks: Test Track, which
has an obstacle course, City Challenge, which is like a freeway, and Back
Roads which is like Sunday driving with slow-moving trucks. Three levels
of difficulty are provided for each track.
It also has an Electronic Showroom, a Ford Buyer's Guide, and Ford
Infocenter to allow you to look at all the features of 1990's models. A
bit dated information, of course, but the game is fun for awhile.
Note to Administrators:
I don't know whether this falls under any copyright laws or what
have you, as no licensing agreement came with the software and I could
not find any mention at all prohibiting against copying. If you don't
see fit to put it on the archive, then that's fine. I was just looking
through some old software and thought it might be fun. Maybe it's too
commercial, as it is a selling medium for Ford.
Scott Walker
walkersc@esvax.dnet.dupont.com
[Archived as /info-mac/demo/ford-car-simulator.hqx; 100K]
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 12:43:21 -0500
From: markf@POST.queensu.ca
Subject: [*] Re: EPSF AFE translators
Place the "EPSF (IBMpc to Mac)" file into the same folder as Apple File
Exchange, the next time use start Apple File Exchange this translator will
be available in the "Mac to Mac" menu or the MS-Dos to Mac" menu.
Encapulated PostScript File on the IBMpc come in two formats:
* Plain ASCII files (starting with %!)
* Binary files with a header that describes the EPSF's PostScript commands
and preview image (TIFF or Metafile) section of the file.
This translator will accept both types of file and produce a EPS file on
the Macintosh without the preview image.
You can select the Macintosh file type and creator. Some applications
allow only EPSF as a file type, some also allow TEXT as type. Setting the
file type to TEXT you can read the file into a word processor and check if
it is a True EPSF file. Many IBMpc software do not create true EPSF files.
EPS file should start/end with:
%!PS-Adobe-3.0 EPSF-2.0
%%Creator: Windows PSCRIPT
%%Title: Document2 name
%%BoundingBox: 18 19 593 774
%%DocumentNeededResources: (atend)
%%DocumentSuppliedResources: (atend)
%%DocumentFonts: (atend)
%%DocumentNeededFonts: (atend)
%%EndComments
....
%%Trailer
%%DocumentSuppliedResources: procset Win35Dict 3 1
%%DocumentFonts: Times-Roman Times-Italic
%%DocumentNeededResources:
%%DocumentNeededFonts: Times-Roman Times-Italic
%%EOF
NOTE: times listed after: %%DocumentNeededResources and
%%DocumentNeededFonts are possible problems.
If the fonts listed are NOT in the printer then you need to include them in
the EPSF file or download them to the printer.
If the ProcSets listed in %%DocumentNeededResources must be downloaded or
inserted in the file at the %%InsertResource: <xxx> comment location.
The following postscript operators can NOT be used in EPSF files:
banddevice, exitserver, initmatrix, setshared, clear, framedevice, quit,
startjob, cleardictstack, grestoreall, renderbands, copypage, initclip,
setglobal, erasepage, initgraphics, setpagedevice
following operators can be used with care:
nulldevice, sethalftone, setscreen, undefinefont, setgstate, setmatrix,
settransfer
For more information see:
PostScript Language Reference Manual, 2nd, Adobe Systems Inc.,
Addison-Wesley Publishing Company, Inc. ISBN 0-201-18127-4
[Archived as /info-mac/util/afe-epsf.hqx; 34K]
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Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 15:21:06 EST
From: "Dieder B." <UGU00266@vm.uoguelph.ca>
Subject: [*] Scrolling CDEV
Here's a neat cdev that allows you to make functional use of the
thumbnail sliders on windows. Slide the thumbnail and the window
scrolls with it. Also controls acceleration of scrolling and whatnot.
Found on an Apple CD-ROM disc, no support provided, and, from what
I can tell in the read-me file, no restrictions for distribution
were made. Just don't bug apple for support. Works rather nicely
so far as I have been playing with it! Even seems to work in MS applications!
How about that for a surprise? :-)
D.
[Archived as /info-mac/cp/scrolling.hqx; 13K]
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Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 15:49:27 EST
From: edw@distant.uucp (Ed Watkeys)
Subject: [*] Send Script 1.0a2 -- BBEdit Extension
Send Script 1.0a2 is a BBEdit Extension which allows you to send documents (or
parts of documents) as do-script ('misc'/'dosc') Apple events. It requires
version 2.2 or later of BBEdit. Includes THINK C 5.0 source.
New features since 1.0d6:
1. You can specify how long Send Script waits before timing out.
2. You can select whether or not the script results are put into a new
document.
3. Send Script remembers what you did last time, so you don't need to specify
all this stuff every time you use it.
4. You can hold down the option key and skip the dialog entirely, provided
that you've already selected a target previously.
Ed Watkeys (edw@distant.uucp or edw%distant@bts.com)
[Archived as /info-mac/app/bbedit-send-script-10a2.hqx; 23K]
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 00:08:08 -0800
From: Samuel S. Tai <sstai@ocf.Berkeley.EDU>
Subject: [*] SuperClock! 4.0.2.sit.hqx
Here's SuperClock! 4.0.2. Please replace the previous version (4.0.1).
Note that I am not the author. Gripes/complaints/bug reports should
go to the author, Steve Christensten (stevec44@aol.com).
Revision Changes:
o 4.0.2
- Fixes a bug that was causing non-color Macs (i.e., Plus, SE,
Classic, PowerBook 100) to crash on installation.
- Fixes an editing problem with the alarm time.
- Fixes a bug in the "chime same number of times..." option.
[Archived as /info-mac/cp/super-clock-402.hqx; 25K]
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 09:33:36 EST
From: Dr. G. Paul Savage <paul.savage@carbon.chem.csiro.au>
Subject: [*] swan startupscreen
This is a 640x480 colour startupscreens of two swans splashing in the water.
If
you have trouble getting this startupscreen to work please read the report
/info-mac/report/startup-deskpict-faq.txt before emailing me. On the other
hand, feel free to email me if you like this screen.
Cheers
Paul.
[Archived as /info-mac/art/swan-startup.hqx; 157K]
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Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 18:38:43 +1000
From: p.farry@ucq.edu.au (Paul Farry - - UCQ<>DEC)
Subject: [*] Update Paul's-icons 1.0.1.hqx
This is just the improved first time attempt. I did not realize that if the
SEA(Self Extracting Archive) was attached that the icons would be unusable.
This file should replace the old one, not accompany it.
/misc/pauls-icons.1.0.1.hqx
Regards
[Archived as /info-mac/misc/pauls-icons-101.hqx; 124K]
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 09:23 PST
From: Philip Harriman <EGS2G1B@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU>
Subject: $89 modem woes
I bought a PowerUser 2400 Baud Mini Modem from MacWarehouse for
$89 for my sister and brother-in-law for Christmas. They just had
a chance to test it over the weekend, and while connecting to MCI
Mail they had a terrible problem with line noise (1 garbage
character for every two characters typed). They are not
experienced modem users, but it sounds like they have all the
settings right. Does this sound like a problem with the modem? Is
it too cheap? Has anyone else had experience with this model?
They are using the communications module in GreatWorks; would
different software (like ZTerm) help?
Thanks,
Phil Harriman
------------------------------
Date: 25 Jan 93 11:43:37 EST
From: Charlie Summers <72257.140@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: (Q) 1-Bit Dual-Page SE/30 Card?
Folks;
A friend purchased an Ehman Dual-Page monitor w/card for his SE. He
recently got a great deal on a used SE/30, and wants to move the monitor to
it.
Anyone have any leads on an inexpensive 1-bit card to use with this
monitor? With the price of bundled monitors/cards so reasonable, there should
be a source for an inexpensive card only...
Thanks!
Charlie Summers
***
* REPLY TO (lof@mcimail.com) .OR. (72257.140@compuserve.com)
***
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 10:05:16 EST
From: grads064@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (Mak Rusli)
Subject: (Q) Music Const. Set from Electronic Arts
Hi Everyone
I received an original copy of Deluxe Music Construction Set from a collegue
here in the office. It is an old version (circa 1986). I was wondering
whether there is a possibility to get an upgrade version.
In the manual, it lists the address:
1820 Gateway Drive, San Mateo, CA 94404
Is this address still valid?
Thanks in advance
Mak Rusli
Dept. of Computing & Info Sc.
University of Guelph
Guelph, Ontario,
Canada N1G 2W1
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 9:56:52 EST
From: grads064@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (Mak Rusli)
Subject: (Q) Using CuBase on MacClassic
Hi Everyone
Does anyone know whether it would be wise to run CuBase (Midi Program) in
MacClassic?
Thanks in Advance.
Mak Rusli
Dept. of Computing & Info. Sc.
University of Guelph
Guelph, Ontario
Canada N1G 2W1
grads064@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca
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Date: 25 Jan 1993 09:14:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: Greg Porter <PORTERG@Gems.VCU.EDU>
Subject: [Q] Forcing color on a B&W Mac?
Is there a kludge out there to force a Mac to run in "color" even if it is
a black and white Mac? Specifically, I have some color software which will
run perfectly well in black and white if I change the "colors" on the Monitor
control panel *after* I load the program, but which will *not* load if the
monitor is set to b&w *before* loading. That is, I'd like to be able to use
the program at home that I use at work. Work is color, home is not. At home,
I can't set the monitor to "color", ergo I can't load the program. Any
suggestions that don't require new hardware?
Greg Porter
porterG@jade.vcu.edu
^ don't forget the "G"!
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 17:12:08 MEZ
From: "Dr. Stefan P. Mueller"
<ONM010%vm.hrz.uni-essen.de@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Accessing Clipper database on PC from Appletalk network
We have a Clipper database on a PC under MS-DOS 5.0. We are considering
to install Novell netware to make this database accessible to a dozen
Mac LC II on an Appletalk net. It would suffice to have only read-access
but several Mac users must be able to retrieve information at the same
time.
Someone suggested to use a dBase compatible Mac program (e.g. FoxBase)
to access the database on the PC but warned to get some expert opinion
first, preferably someone who has hands-on experience. Has anybody out
there ever done this? Would it be possible for several users to access a
file on the strictly single-user MeSsy-DOS machine? Are there any simple
means of translating the structure from Clipper to another dBase
compatible format?
If this can't be done painlssly with moderate funds we would not touch
the project in it's current form.
Thank you for your help!
Stefan
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 14:56:27 -0500
From: Robert Scott Lillard <rsl8m@kelvin.seas.virginia.edu>
Subject: access pc
hello' net heads
a brief comment on mt experience with access pc and the mac (in
reply to gr4923's problems 1/25). q - does your mac plus have a
high density disc drive? your friends lcII certainly does. you
have to remember that ibm (but not the clones) will format a low
density disc (one hole) with 1.4 megs regardless (hole present or
not). your freinds hd drive is not quite as smart and will only
format and recognize an hd disc if hole no. 2 is present! anyway
it may that your hd drive if you have one thinks that the disc it
is looking at is a low density disc when in fact it is formated
as an hd disc. if you do have an hd drive you can punch (or cut
with a razor) the elusive second hole and your problem is solved,
else format the disc on ibm as an ld disc.
hope it's of help.
go cav's!
scott lillard
rslill@virginia.edu
p.s. sorry about the spelling but once i type it in it's gone!
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 10:09:49 -0500 (EST)
From: James Loats <loats1@husc.harvard.edu>
Subject: anyone know where this might be found?
I have been looking for a program to catalog and label my floppy disk
collection, and I saw a reference in one of those "Mac Shareware Best-Of"
books that have been proliferating like blowflies recently to a shareware
HyperCard stack called "Phantom Labeller" or something similar. The author
gave it a very high recommendation, however I have been unable to find this
program on any of the Mac archive sites I know of. Does anybody out there
know where I might find this? Has anyone ever in fact heard of it? Am I
chasing wild geese?
Thanks for any help (post or e-mail)
Jim Loats
loats1@husc.harvard.edu
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 16:19:52 EST
From: "Dieder B." <UGU00266@vm.uoguelph.ca>
Subject: Apple's Easy Open P.R.
here's the P.R. release on Apple's new 'Easy Open' developer's kit.
D.
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MOVED OVER PR NEWSWIRE AT 11:30 AM, EST, MONDAY, JANUARY 4, 1993.
Contact: Cindy McCaffrey
Apple Computer, Inc.
(408) 974-1578
Apple Ships Translation Manager Software to Developers
Macintosh Easy Open Simplifies Opening Files from Other Programs, Platforms
CUPERTINO, California -- January 4, 1993 --
Apple Computer, Inc. today announced the immediate availability of the
Macintosh (Easy Open Developer's Kit, an extension to System 7 and a
translation manager application programming interface (API) that
provides Apple developers with the ability to enhance their applications
or translation systems to open and convert documents on Macintosh
personal computers, regardless of the availability of the applications
that created the files.
Designed to simplify access to information from a variety of
applications and across computing platforms, Macintosh Easy Open
makes opening and converting documents as easy as any other basic
Macintosh task. Once incorporated into third-party applications or
file translation systems, Macintosh Easy Open provides users with
options for accessing and manipulating documents quickly and easily.
Apple developers and their customers will appreciate that their
applications require no modifications to take advantage of most
Macintosh Easy Open features.
"Macintosh Easy Open is a powerful tool for getting to information
regardless of where it came from," said Charlie Oppenheimer, director
of marketing for Apple's Macintosh Software Architecture division.
Macintosh Easy Open provides users with a number of ways to access
Macintosh and non-Macintosh files. For example, when a user double-clicks
on a document that normally couldn't be opened because the application
that created it is unavailable, Macintosh Easy Open intercedes and
searches for applications and file translation systems that are capable
of opening the document, and lists them for the user. Once the user
selects an alternate application, Macintosh Easy Open transparently
manages the conversion of the document using the application's internal
translation capabilities or by using specialized translation software.
"DataViz has adapted its entire MacLinkPlus library of file translators,
so Macintosh Easy Open will always offer users an application to open
"foreign" documents whether they came from a Macintosh or a personal
computer," said Dick Fontana, president of DataViz, Inc.
By incorporating a standard API, Macintosh Easy Open provides Apple
developers with unique translation-management services. These
services can be integrated into their applications or translation
systems to provide transparent data conversion whenever opening,
copying, pasting, or publishing data from one format to another.
While Macintosh Easy Open does not perform any data translation
itself, it effectively manages access to third-party translation
systems and applications, which perform the actual translation.
The Macintosh Easy Open extension also features added descriptive
information about documents, including non-Macintosh files, and color
icons in the Open and Save windows, making it easier for users to
determine document types at the Finder level.
The Macintosh Easy Open Document Converter, which comes with Macintosh
Easy Open, is a system utility that works with third-party translators
to allow users to convert a document from one file format to another,
without opening the document. With this feature, files can be converted
easily and quickly by simply dragging file icons to the Document Converter
icon.
Availability
The Macintosh Easy Open 1.0 DeveloperUs Kit is available to developers
for $150 U.S. by contacting the Apple Programmers & Developers Association
(APDA), Apple's mail-order service for developers, at
1-800-282-2732 in the United States,
or
1-800-637-0029 in Canada.
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 16:54:34 -0600
From: spencer@cfdlab.ae.utexas.edu (Spencer Swift)
Subject: Apple-Double file format (Q)
Hello fellow netters,
I work on a small network of Mac's and Sun4's with a Cayman GatorBox
as a gateway. I store quite a few Macintosh files on my Unix account.
These files are automatically put into Apple-Double file format (one
file is the data fork and one is the resource fork) by the GatorBox.
On occasion, I need to get at these files WITHOUT going through the
gateway.
There is my problem. I don't know how to reassemble the two forks,
the gateway usually does it for me. Anybody know a way to reassemble
Apple-Double files either on the Unix or Macintosh side?
Yes, I realize that I could probably do it with ResEdit, but it is not
really a convenient solution when I am dealing with several files.
Any replies would of course be appreciated. As this is of limited
interest, you can reply to me directly if you want.
spencer@cfdlab.ae.utexas.edu
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 09:11:06 EST
From: Don DeMaio <DONDE@BROWNVM.brown.edu>
Subject: ATM 2.03 and System 7.1
ATM 2.03 will not work with System 7.1 without a hack/fix/patch or
whatever. It cannot find the outline fonts which, in 7.1, are placed into
the Fonts Folder. The patch fixes it.
There is a patch at sumex, called ATM Fixer, you might try. It worked for
me.
Don
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:52:14 -0500
From: Ed Ver Hoef <verhoef@europa.eng.gtefsd.com>
Subject: Automatic Saving (Q)
A year or so ago I downloaded from sumex-aim a program which would
automatical save my current file at a specifiable time interval whenever I
was working in MS Word or Excel. (Perhaps it would also do so for other
applications but I don't remember.) Some time ago I wiped out my entire hard
disk. I have restored much of what was lost but every so often I realize
that something I once had, I no longer have. This program is one of those
former had things. I don't even remember its name although it might have
been something like auto-save. Do any of you netters recognize the program
>From this description and, if so, know where I can find a copy. I have
looked through several of the folders at sumex-aim for something to prod my
memory but it was all in vain.
Ed Ver Hoef
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 12:04:55 CST
From: drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David Gutierrez)
Subject: Borland and the Mac
Borland and the Mac
In Info-Mac Digest V11 #18, Steve Bang writes:
>Notice how interested
>Borland is in supporting Taligent? Kahn has even commented on how
>fast the Taligent code works (who has said the same for Windows NT,
>let alone Cairo?).
But can we trust Borland? Look at their support for their various Mac
products.
They dropped their utility package (Sidekick). They sold their database
(dBase Mac). They've left the products they got when they bought Ashton-Tate
(FullWrite Pro, Full Impact, and FullPaint) to wither away as changes in the
operating system and new hardware make them stop working.
It'll take a _lot_ to make me even look at a Borland product.
David Gutierrez
Univ. Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center
drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 19:04:33 -0600
From: oehler@picard.cs.wisc.edu (Wonko the Sane)
Subject: Catalog file corruption
In the past two weeks I've seen this similar type of problem. On my personal
machine, my hard drive crashed (sort of--I would get bad disk errors on a few
programs, that's all) and I was able to fix it with Disk First Aid. Just
to be safe, I ran Mactools, and it said my catalog file was damaged. It then
advised me to reformat the drive and install my backup. I did so. haven't
had
so much as a glitch since. Mactools still says I have a damaged catalog tree,
however.
Then, one of the Macs at work starts acting up. Everytime Word gets
launched, an "Illegal Instruction" bomb comes up. I reformatted,
re-initialized
checked for bad blocks, installed new software of all types. Fresh word,
fresh system, everything. Still crashes. I run it using a startup floppy,
everything is just peachy. Try with the system on the hard drive, and
it invariably crashes. Mactools said the catalog file was damaged. I
followed it's advice. It still says the catalog file is damaged. Norton sys
the disk is just fine. What is going on? Is there any way to fix a trashed
catalog file? is it really trashed, or is this just the symptom of something
else? Is this something in 7.0.1? My own drive hasn't acted up at all since
I started using 7.1. I've tried everything on the SE at work short of ripping
the drive out of the mac and stomping on it for a bit, and nothing seems to
work! That stomping thing actually seems like a good idea, now that I think
about it. Argh. Can anyone help?
Thanks
Eric Oehler
Lakeshore Computer Center Tech Staff, UW Division of Housing
oehler@picard.cs.wisc.edu
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 10:50:05 -0500
From: baim@aaec1.aaec.com
Subject: cyberspace ?!
In the vein of the discussion of "hacker" recently:
In IM V11 #17 tmaddox@netcom.com (Tom Maddox) writes:
>...The megalopolises of cyberspace differ from their ordinary counterparts in
>>many ways...
in an article he wrote about the time and space in the context of networks
such as the internet.
I must protest the growing use of the term "cyberspace" for the virtual
space created by large networks. My dictionary defines "cybernation" as
"the automatic control of a process or operation (as in manufacturing) by
means of a computer" and "cybernetics" as " the science of communication
and control theory that is concerned esp. with the comparative study of
automatic control systems (as the nervous system and brain and
mechanical-electrical communication systems)". So, "cyberspace" would be
all about control and NOT communication. The opposite (I hope) of what we
have in mind. The prefix "cyber" is one of those cool sounding but often
misused technospeak tidbits. Surely we can come up with a more accurate
piece of jargon to refer to "network space" without co-opting (and
corrupting) another perfectly useful term. If WE can't keep our language
accurate, what are the media going to do?
So, any nominations?
Paul Baim
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 12:07:10 -0500 (EST)
From: COLMENARES@rhoda.fordham.edu (VAX Academic Support)
Subject: Develop vs. MacTech (formerly MacTutor)
Hi,
Can someone tell me the difference between Develop and MacTech.?
I recall a message sometime ago that described Develop as a Macintosh
developers' publication written by the same. In addition, it comes
with a CD packed with back issues, utilities and technical info. When
I attempted to obtain information, the operator mentioned that the 800
number was disconnected and no new number is available. Anyone have
another number?
Also, how does it compare to MacTech (formally MacTutor)?
Any info on either or both publications would be greatly appreciated.
Josephine Colmenares / Fordham University
colmenares@fordmrh1.bitnet / colmenares@rhoda.fordham.edu
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 16:58:11 -0500
From: bx341@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert E. Winston)
Subject: Disappearing color in General Control Panel (A)
> After my recent hard disk crash, I reinstalled System 7,
> with Tuneup 1.1.1. For some reason, the desktop
> color-choosing option disappeared from the general control
> panel: I could only do black & white patterns on the
> desktop.
Most likely, your desktop pattern, which is 'ppat' #16 in the
System file, is damaged. There are two ways to fix this.
1) Replace the system. If you do this be sure to drag the old
System file to the trash then startup with the System 7 Install
1 disk. If you don't trash the old system first, the installer
saves the desktop pattern from the old System file and puts it
in the new one. You will have accomplished nothing.
2) Use ResEdit.
<Insert your favorite ResEdit warning here>
Open the System file with ResEdit.
Double click 'ppat' and select and cut resource #16. This is
your current desktop pattern.
Double click 'ppt#'. This is where the color patterns live.
Double click resource #0, the only one.
On the right side of the picker, select any one of the color
patterns by single clicking it.
Copy and paste this pattern into 'ppat'.
Do a <Command> <I> or select "Get Resource Info" from the
Resource menu.
Change the ID# to 16.
Save and quit ResEdit.
You should now be able to select any of the color patterns in
the General Cdev.
> Even more interestingly, when I examined the cp[General
> control panel] on the Tidbits disk (an official disk,
> supplied by Apple), it lacked the color control as well.
The General doesn't really do anything itself and it doesn't
contain the desktop patterns. It's just a gateway to the System,
Finder, and PRAM. When you inserted the Tidbits disk and opened
the General cp, you were really looking into your System file.
> In addition, I cannot display startupscreens in color. When
> I open them with a graphics program they look fine; but when
> I do a startup they appear in black and white.
I could suggest zaping the PRAM to fix this problem, but the
apple.com types get all a twitter at the thought of promiscuous
PRAM zaping, so I won't.
Open the monitors cdev. Change the setting to B & W. Change it
back to color. Restart. Your startupscreen should be displayed in
glorious color. (And if that doesn't work, zap the PRAM)
________
Robert E. Winston usr4818a@cbos.uc.edu
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:09:31 GMT
From: royappa@athena.mit.edu (A. Tim Royappa)
Subject: Disk First Aid vs. Norton Utilities
I have often tried to use Disk First Aid to check/fix a floppy disk which
was acting up. After informing me that there was something wrong with the
diskette (which I already knew), it wouldn't do anything ABOUT IT! *&^%$!
On the other hand, Norton Utilities will always make an attempt to fix things,
very often with spectacular success, at least in my experience.
C'mon, Apple! Now that you're charging for your OS software, show us some
customer support other than your touted toll-free hotline! Make a disk
analysis
product that will at least TRY to fix a broken disk instead of merely
informing
the user that it's broken.
- Dr. Tim Royappa
royappa@athena.mit.edu
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:58:10 +0100
From: frtjs@fy.chalmers.se (Johan Swahn)
Subject: Ethernet number of Quadra
As far as I can see it, Apple does not in its documentation provide the
ethernet numbers (e.g. X:X:X:X:X:X) of the built-in ethernet "cards" on,
for example, the Quadra 700 or the Laserwriter IIg. (I may be wrong, but I
have not found them.) We, or rather our network administrator, need these.
The ethernet number of our LaserWriter IIg could be found by using the
command "Configure Communication" using Apple's program LaserWriter
Utility, which displays the number.
Can someone tell me how can I find out the ethernet number our Quadra 700?
Any software tips? (I was hoping for MacEnvy until I realized it is too
old.) If I open the casing, can I find the number on the Ethernet "card"?
Any suggestions can be made directly to me. I will summarize.
Johan Swahn (frtjs@fy.chalmers.se)
P.S. The command "arp -a" after telneting to a UNIX box unfortunately gives
the ethernet number of our zone's Gatorbox, not the Quadra's.
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 13:52:47 -0500
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Brian Hughes)
Subject: FileMaker Pro 2.0 Script Needed
George Ewonus writes:
>I need some help to create a FMP 2.0 script. Here is the situation.
>I have created scripts that allow me to define my 'Page Setup'
>parameters for different layouts that I am using. For example, layout
>A requires 'landscape' printing and B requires vertical printing.
>This of course is not too difficult. However I would like to be able
>to eliminate the tedious step of manually activating the appropriate script
>everytime I choose a layout. Is there a script (I suppose we should
>call it a 'meta-script) that would automatically activate the
>appropriate 'Page Setup' script everytime I enter a specific layout.
You can simulate this if you design buttons on your layout screens
for people to use when they want to switch between the layouts. Then you
could have the buttons call scripts that perfomr the layout switch and
also adjust the page setup options. Otherwise, there is no way to do
this with FM Pro, but you could do it with Quickkeys in a similar manner
to what I described with buttons.
--
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 13:00:06 EST
From: iedh1@agt.gmeds.com ( Daniel J. Hofferth
230-4791 AGT/8896)
Subject: Font menu and word processors
O.K. I keep assuming this thread is near death and there is no need for me
to correct this, but it keeps popping up. ClarisWorks displays the font
menu in the indicated font BY DEFAULT... you use the Option-key to DISABLE
the feature.
Using the Command-key, as stated in previous infomacs, simply has no effect.
.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:
WordProcessors/Works programs that DO display the font menu in the
indicated fonts:
Nisus (Option-key)
WriteNow (Option-key?)
ClarisWorks (Default, Option-key disables)
WordPerfect (Preferences option)
WPs that DON'T:
MS Word
MacWrite
Unknown major apps:
MS Works
GreatWorks
MacWrite Pro(vaporware)
Tools to add this feature to you poor suffering MS Word & MacWrite users:
Suitcase
Now Utilities.
.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:
Ahhh... the world returns to its proper orbit.
Dan Hofferth
iedh1@agt.gmeds.com
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Date: 25 Jan 93 13:05:50 U
From: Evans-CIC-IS <evans-cic-is%micmac@redstone-emh2.army.mil>
Subject: Formatter for Bering rm Drives
We just got a hand-me-down Bering removable cartridge drive. Everytime we try
to format a Bernoulli cartridge with the Iomega INIT, we get an error message
that the Iomega INIT is not loaded. We have version 3.4.2 Iomega. Can
someone
recommend the correct driver/formatter, and does anyone know if this company
still exists?
Thanx
Troy
--
Troy D. Evans MacNetMgr evans-cic-is@redstone-emh2.army.mil
Micom Macintosh/PC/UNIX Users Assistance Group Redstone Arsenal AL
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:14 CST
From: STJONES%MTSU.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU
Subject: FTP novice problem...(Q)
We have just hooked up to the internet here in the last day or so. I was used
to getting everything I needed done by using our Bitnet connection. I can now
use FTP and am exploring this. But when I FTP to apple.com, I get the
following result:
ACAD1:: $ ftp ftp.apple.com
421- We have failed to find a hostname for your IP address [161.45.64.1]
421- in the Domain Name System. This is probably because your nameserver
421- does not have an IN-ADDR record for your address in its tables.
421- We refuse service to hosts whose names we cannot resolve. If this
421- is simply because your nameserver is hard to reach or slow to respond
421- then try again in a minute or so, and perhaps our nameserver will have
421- your hostname in its cache by then. If not, try reaching us from a host
421 that is in the DNS.
Connected to FTP.APPLE.COM.
Name (FTP.APPLE.COM:stjones): anonymous
421 Service not available, Remote server has closed the connection
%UCX-E-FTP_LOGREJ, Login request rejected
I have no idea what this means, other than that something is wrong and I can't
get on at apple.com. Can someone translate this into plain English for a
guy who never took computer science?
Thanks!
Steve Jones
Assistant Professor of Design & Technology
Middle Tennessee State University
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 12:50:10 CST
From: "Eric H. Durbrow" <C509393@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu>
Subject: FYI French Instruction Programs
I asked about Mac French instruction programs and several people asked me
to summarize what I learned. I brought two commercial programs: HyperGlot
Word Torture and Transparent Languages reading program. Both are
disappointing.
HyperGlot is a poorly designed HyperCard flashcard program. It asks you to
pro-
vide the English translation of a French word or phrase. Your answer most
match HyperGlot's precisely (e.g., it will not accept "the movie theater" for
cinema but "movie theater"). HyperGlot is the worst Mac program I've encoun-
tered. Trans Lang is better. You read a story in French and it provides word
phrase meanings and notes. However, I did not find it useful for learning
grammar and some translations, I suspect, are dubious. I'm sending both
programs back to Mac's Place and I do not recommend them. Hope this helps.
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 08:05:28 CST
From: PULLMANN@VM1.TUCC.TRINITY.EDU
Subject: Gatekeeper/AutoDoubler woes revisited
Charles Mingo writes:
>"Most probable explanation"? I think not. GateKeeper requires the
>user to grant a range of privileges to a whole host of apps,
>precisely because GK inaccurately flags many legitimate programs
>as viruses. Why, I think the conflict with AutoDoubler ALONE would
>produce far more false alarms, than true viruses detected by GK.
<stuff deleted>
>In other words: you CHOSE to install virus software that you KNEW was
>almost certain to cause conflicts with "well-behaved" applications
>because you decided you wanted GK so badly that you were prepared to
>put up with such conflicts.
>
>If you want to put software like that on your Mac, be my guest; but
>don't go blaming the authors of well-behaved applications when GK
>malfunctions. It's virtually designed to do that.
And so forth through a host of flames.
He may be right. I've been following this thread for quite a few days
now, but I don't know diddly about programming the Mac so I'm really
not qualfied to say. However, it does seem, even to my ignorant eyes,
that virii could not exist in the computer world if they did not mimic
legitimate, allowable actions. This being the case, it's difficult to see
how Chris Johnson or anyone else could design a program to detect 'sus-
picious activity' that doesn't sometimes call a false hit.
As Mr. Mingo points out, it is up to the individual to decide whether to
use Gatekeeper or not. Certainly, it's Mr. Mingo's privilege not to.
I really don't understand this virulent attack on someone who, from where
I sit, seems to be trying to provide a useful tool to the Mac community,
free of charge. I also don't understand how Gatekeeper could be quite as
buggy as all that, when I've been using it for more than a year and a
half now and *never* had *one single* problem with it, or conflict between
it and the host of other apps/inits/whathaveyou that I run. (No, I do not
use AutoDoubler.)
I don't have any idea how simple it would be for FGS to work with Chris
on a resolution to the GK/AD problem. But it does seem real simple to just
remove whichever is less important to you in the meantime. It also seems
to me (but what do I know) that FGS makes money from their product and
therefore has an R&D budget with which to work on such a problem. Pointing
the finger at GK and saying 'they don't follow the rules' doesn't seem like
a very productive corporate reaction. An awful lot of people use GK, and
in this mushrooming age of information technology GK and similar programs
working in similar ways are going to become more and more important in
stopping the concommitant rise in electronic crime. It's like putting
burglar bars on your windows and doors and an alarm system in your hall-
way--the crooks are a lot less likely to get in, but it's more hassle for
you and your legitimate visitors too. Until somebody devises an absolutely
fool-proof system that can tell burglars from guests (or virii from legiti-
mate behavior), the trade-off seems worth it to me.
All of the above IMHO only, of course.
Pat Ullmann PULLMANN@VM1.TUCC.TRINITY.EDU or PULLMANN@TRINITY (BITNET)
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 18:51:27 EST
From: Pete Tamas <GNOME%TEMPLEVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: High-quality disks
> I did want to say that in my experience paying extra for branded
> discs does not guarantee quality.
I thought IUd point out that buying "the best disk money can buy"
leads to a false sense of security and reduces incentives to
make backups.
> My Institution buys bulk branded at
> a discount. We buy bulk cheapies at half the price. On average over the
> years we get fewer failures on the cheapies. My particular non-favourite
> are Verbatim.
>
3M is not so hot either. -Pete Tamas
Gnome@VM.Temple.EDU, Temple Univ, Philadelphia (betw New York & Wash DC)
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 13:49:46 -0500
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Brian Hughes)
Subject: IIvx or IIci, that is the question! (R)
Robert Ponto writes:
>Basically, my question is: Should I get a VX or a CI (or something else)?
>Our local dealer here has thoroughly confused me. He claims that the VX's
>data transfer rate is only 16 bits, creating a "bottleneck" in an otherwise
>speedy machine. This (I think) contradicts my copy of MacUser's 1993 Buying
>Guide which lists the "data bus" for a VX as 32 bits. Is this indeed a
contra-
>diction or is "data bus" something else entirely? I could sure use some help
>on this.
There is a limitation in the logic board design of the IIvx. The
'030, the memory and the FPU all talk to each other at 32Mhz, while the
rest of the logic board communicates at 16Mhz. This means it requires an
extra clock cycle to fully comminicate between the 2 groups. This is why
the IIvx runs at same overall speed as a IIci.
>I should say that along with my work in PM and Finale, I also would like to
>have a 16" Color Monitor, sound recording capability (absent I know from the
>CI) and a CD-ROM. These items are, of course for my kids ;) .
Well, what it sounds like you want is the Centris 610. It will be
faster than a IIvx (it uses a 20Mhz 68LC040), it will have a
configuration with an internal CD-ROM, and it will support a 16" monitor
with on-board video. Of course you will have to wait until Feb. to place
an order because it hasn't been released yet. But it definatly sounds
like what you want.
>Lastly, to finish this rambling inquiry, can someone clarify exactly which
>video card(s) it takes to drive a 16"(let's say Apple) monitor for either
>a VX or CI. And should I care whether it's 8 bit or 24 bit color?
This depends. Usually a good video card (8 bit) will run you
something over $300-$400 but not all of these have support for 16"
monitors. If you want more than 256 colors then you are talking about
$1000 or somewhere in that neighborhood.
-Hades--
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Date: 25 Jan 1993 07:26:49 -0600 (MDT)
From: Metro State College of Denver <EDJ@ZENO.MSCD.EDU>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #17
Gate Keeper is for people whom have a year to add every possible appication
you can think of that is not a trojen horse, or a virus. This program
is very good in that way. BUT Gate Keeper is about the worst program
you could use for virus protection. Why don't you use Disinfectant
or something else. lets put it this way.... If there were only
two programs for virus protection gatekeeper and a program that cost 2000.00
I would not hesitate to purchase the one for 2000.00!!
Get disinfectant it is better, has a INIT, and it works. if not purchase
VIREX its the best on the commercial market side!
Ed Jacobs
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 11:49:50 NZD
From: N.Perry@massey.ac.nz
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #18
info-mac-request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (The Moderators):
>
> How can I play quicktime movies from hypercard 2.1.
> Is that a feature of hypercard or does it require
> some extra add-on.
> I basically want to be able to click a button in hc
> and have the qt movie pop up and play.
>
> thanks in advance for any help.
>
> ryan
>
Ryan,
Two answers:
a) Apple/Claris XCMDs: Cost a few $'s, unless you know an Apple Developer with
a CD... Plays movies in normal Mac windows, and some support for non-window
on card playing.
b) Pictoid Package: From mac.archive.umich.edu or other archive, free for
personal use (you need Pictoids 1.0 + Updater 1.1). Plays movies in "windows"
the same shape as the movie, i.e. you see no window frame so it appears
like the movies are on the card. Also supports movie & picture "buttons"
which can be scripted much like other HC buttons.
Take your pick, I'm oviously biased (I wrote b).
Cheers,
Nigel
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 08:27:06 GMT
From: schultz@iastate.edu (Jonathan R Schultz)
Subject: Looking closer at the power-lock posting
In digest <9301250531.AA02899@SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU>
Info-Mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu writes:
>I also tried to download Power-lock 3.1 from sumex and was unsuccessful. I
>then tried to sent mail to the author, but got an undeliverable mail failure
>message -- user doesn't exist. So then I fingered him at both the mail
>address
>that was at the bottom of his letter and also at the address in the from part
>of the header. The transcript of my fingering follows...
[transcript deleted]
>Now, I may be a little paranoid, but does somebody want to look at this file
>and see what it really does?
>Mike
>Ungerm@carleton.edu Carleton College, Northfield, MN 55057
There is no need to panic. PowerLock is a real utility program, and not a
virus
or trojan horse.In fact, PowerLock 2.x was on info-mac some time back.
To contact the author, try rgc%ausom.oz@sol.cc.deakin.oz.au
Also, PowerLock does not require AU/X and will run under system 6 and 7.
I have been testing PowerLock for some time now. All of the author's previous
mailings came through fine. The last mailing (the same one sent to info-mac)
obviously did not get packaged properly, and I've notified him. He's in
Australia, and mail takes longer.
It is unfortunate that for one reason or another PowerLock did not get
submitted correctly. I can understand the frustration and loss of time (it's
happened to me more than once). However, this is not the first time, nor the
last, that a program did not get properly submitted. So please give it
another try when it is resubmitted. Thanks!
PowerLock is actually a nice shareware security program. I hope it is given a
fair chance.
Have a great week!
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 00:40:53 PST
From: Willie Strickland <willie@igc.apc.org>
Subject: looking for email addresses
Does anyone know the email address for the creator of the Vantage DA, Dave
McWherter of Signature Software? I also have been looking for the email
address of Global Village Communication.
Thanks,
Willie
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:18:00 -0500 (EST)
From: Scott Kaplan <sfkaplan@cs.amherst.edu>
Subject: Mac-in-Stock problems...
I will start by saying that I don't know anything about the company you have
ordered from. However, with $12,000+ at stake, I would hope that you have a
way to cancel payment and cancel the order. You may be eager to get your
equipment and get working, but there must be somewhere else that you can order
>From which will provide you with quicker and better service.
I would never trust a company that started to give me the runaround like
you've
gotten with that much money. Get out if you can, and bring your business
elsewhere.
Scott Kaplan
Amherst College
sfkaplan@cs.amherst.edu
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:08:05 +0000
From: Elliot Bennett <Elliot.Bennett@europa.rs.kp.dlr.de>
Subject: MacWarehouse German address....
For those of you who asked (and for those who didn't), MacWarehouse can be
reached in Germay by calling (toll-free) 0130-85 93 93 (Fax: 061/95 68 38).
Their hours are Monday-Friday 8 am - 6 pm and Saturday from 9 am - 1:30. They
also have a next day delivery for DM 9.90. I should say that I have never
ordered from them and take NO responsibility for anything you order (and, of
course, I am not affiliated with MacWarehouse in any way).
PandaSoft is in Berlin. You can reach them at: (030) 31 59 13-0 (-55 for fax-
they don't seem to have a 0130 number). Their address is Uhlandstr. 195, 1000
Berlin 12. A catalog costs DM 5.
Good Luck,
Elliot Bennett
P.S.- sorry this took so long to get out, but I was at MacWorld in S.F. and
then on vacation for 3 weeks...
elliot@europa.rs.kp.dlr.de
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 11:25:04 -0600 (CST)
From: SH05219@NYSSA.SWT.EDU
Subject: Memory on the Quadra 700
Well I recently purchased an 8 meg simm for my quadra 700,
no instructions came with, thought don't need them anyway.
so I ripped up my Quadra, put the simm in and
booted up my computer.. Two things have happened...
1. My computer boots, and plays a little tune and the monitor does not come up
and it is basically dead.
2. I put the chip in the other way, my computer boots, but i got to the
memory panel and it still says only 4 megs built in..
So just give me a clue, and i will be thankful
ignorant - but not for long sh05219@nyssa.swt.edu
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 11:57 EST
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <needje@msen.com>
Subject: Paranoia on the net
In 11-18, Mudd Rat aka "Mike" <UNGERM@carleton.edu> worries about a posting
of Power Lock 3.1 because of the result of his Finger. Specifically:
>Anyway, the things that disturb me are the "never logged in", the "unknown
>host" at the from address and also that the user at the mail address he left
>doesn't exist.
Aside from the irony of someone calling himself Mudd Rat complaining about
someone being hard to identify, there are some points to be made about
Finger and its results. This morning I was asked by a new Internet user how
Finger worked, so I just Fingered her (I was gentle). The Finger program I
used responded--just like Mike's program--that the host was unknown. Now,
since my mail was getting through to her, I knew that wasn't a valid
answer. On checking, I found that her firm didn't allow anyone to telnet or
ftp from the outside to the firm. Obviously, the blocked access resulted in
the "unknown host" message. If you finger my own accounts, you'll find that
I haven't logged in myself for months according to Finger. Why? Because I
pick up and send mail mostly by Eudora, and accessing the POP3 server
doesn't register as a login. Also, msen.com has several different machines.
The default machine is heifetz.msen.com, which is where finger questions
addressed to msen.com go. My account is now on garnet.msen.com; I haven't
been on heifetz for a while.
Mike's finger implies to me that the author is a student; student addresses
change often. There's no reason to suspect the program is anything
nefarious. Finger is a very rudimentary procedure which often returns odd
results for obscure reasons. Don't sweat it.
Jeff Needleman <needje@msen.com>
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Date: 25 Jan 1993 17:35:55 -0500
From: "Ron Beloin" <Ron_Beloin@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu>
Subject: Pins & jacks on a Conner-40
Subject: Time:05:30 PM
OFFICE MEMO Pins & jacks on a Conner-40 (Q) Date:1/25/93
Hello hardware mavens,
I transferred a Conner 40 from an si to an old MacBotton case, but wasn't
sure which pins controlled scsi addressing. Can anyone give me a tour
of the various pins on this drive? There are four pairs labeled E1-E4, as
I recall, and also a jack near the edge of the circuit board that looks like
it might accept a plug from a scsi changing switch (which the Macbot has).
Right now it's working fine on a plus, but at scsi 0. A drive led plug
would be nice to know about also.
Thanks loads!
Ron Beloin
Boyce Thompson Inst. for Plant Research
R.Beloin@cornell.edu
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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 17:13 WET
From: "Alun J. Carr" <AJCARR%ccvax.ucd.ie@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: PowerLock Problem (C)
A few people seem to be complaining about the format of the
PowerLock archive at SUMEX-AIM. I also found that the file
wasn't useable after de-Binhexing, but I looked at the Creator
ID Like A. Law, and decided to run it through MacBinary, to
convert it into a Mac file. Works like a dream. Haven't had a
chance to try the package out yet though!
Hope this workaround helps.
Alun
Alun J. Carr
Mech. Eng. Dept.
UCD
Belfield
Dublin 4
Ireland
Internet: ajcarr@ccvax.ucd.ie
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 10:20:22 -0600
From: oehler@picard.cs.wisc.edu (Life is illusion.)
Subject: Printer Questions...
I have a stylewriter (I) and I have a few questions...
1) Is there a way to print postscript graphics on a quickdraw printer? I can
convert them to PICT with PhotoShop, but they're never the clean, scalable
outlines I want. Is there some product, freeware, shareware, PD, or
commericial
that'll give me the kind of clean graphics that PostScript printers do
naturally
. If Apple hadn't let TrueImage or whatever it was called become vaporware,
I wouldn't have this problem.
B) Where can one find the stylewriter II driver? I understand that it is
compatible with the SW I, but the greyscale option works nicely, and I
could use that as well.
I'm one of those poor college slobs who only has enough money to
buy a Stylewriter but longs for the quality of a laserwriter. I suppose
the LaserJet 4M's we have at work would do, but I have to pay to use those...
Thanx in advance.
Eric Oehler
oehler@picard.cs.wisc.edu
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 06:44:30 PST
From: "Phillip Broussard" <broussard@anvil.nrl.navy.mil>
Subject: Problems with Superclock 4.0.1 and Powerbook 100
Netters,
Has anyone else noticed a problem with the new version of superclock and a
powerbook 100? Upon booting up, when the superclock cdev tries to load, I get
an "unimplemented trap" error. This happens even if superclock is the only
extension/cdev to load. The version of Superclock works fine on a Mac IIcx
and
a Quadra 700, however.
I'm not sure how to post this info to the author, as I don't have america
online
or compuserve access.
Phill Broussard
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 18:55:36 EST
From: thart@mail.stx.com (Tom Hart)
Subject: Russian Version of System 7.0.1
I ftp'd the Russian version of system 7.0.1 from ftp.apple.com for a friend.
When we tried to boot up using the disks prepared from the image files the
systems crashed. Is this because our systems are using American ROMs or what?
Thanks for any help.
Thomas Hart
------------------------------
Date: 25 Jan 93 12:50:00 CST
From: "JOHN S. CONRADER" <CONRADERJ@h8700a.boeing.com>
Subject: Sad Mac :(
I have a question for you mac people:
My parents have a IIsi(5/80) with system 7.0.1(tuned) that has a problem.
When they start up the computer it comes up with the happy mac :) and then
sits there for a while. When it should be loading extentions it gets a
sad mac :( with the following:
0000000F
00000003
Does anyone know what this means, or is there a file that lists the
codes? I have an old SadMacErrorCodes file, but it does not list
anything like that. Thanks for any help.
-John :)
conraderj@h8700a.boeing.com
------------------------------
Date: 25 Jan 1993 18:07:47 -0700 (MST)
From: GERHARD@CCIT.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: Second to Brian Saunders re GateKeeper
I wish to add my thanks to those of Brian Saunders -
I use GateKeeper and I very much appreciate the
time and effort that Chris Johnson puts into it.
Peter Gerhardstein (gerhard@ccit.arizona.edu)
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 12:38:01 +0100
From: "CHRISTIAN F. BUSER" <cbuser@pegasus.ch>
Subject: Subject lines (C)
guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) writes:
>Why do people use "(Q)", "(A)", and "(R)" in their subject lines ?
>What's wrong with "Re:" ?
>
>Imagine:
>"Is this a stupid subject line (Q)"
>"Is this a stupid subject line (R)" I think so.
>"Is this a stupid subject line (A)" Yes.
>"Is this a stupid subject line (Summary)" YES IT IS!
>"Is this a stupid subject line (FAQ)" Avoid them !
Sven,
I did not "invent" these abbreviations, but I think they are better than
having a digest in which 80 per cent of the contributution can be found
under "Re: ... ". Maybe you'd like to search for key words in the index
that way, but I don't. Why not distinguish between Questions (Q), Answers
or (A) and Comments (C)?
However, I agree wirh you that it is silly to use the subject line to
express an opinion, as in your example:
"Is this a stupid subject line (R)" I think so.
The "I think so"-addition to the subject line is pure nonsense.
However, I do not condemn anyone for his own opinion. We live in a free
world and can think whatever we like to think (at least in theory). And
you can use "Re: ..." subject lines as anyone else can use those
abbreviations at the end.
Best regards, Christian cbuser@pegasus.ch
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 07:53:14 CST
From: "mrgate::asc170::treble"%mrgate%ascct6@ascct6.asc.slb.com
Subject: Summary of Sad Mac Error codes
From: NAME: TREBLE <TREBLE@ASC170@MRGATE@ASCCT6>
To: "info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu"@M_INTERNET@MRGATE@ASCCT6
Path: asc438.asc.slb.com!user
From: Treble@asc.slb.com (John Treble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Distribution: world
Subject: Sad Mac Error codes
Message-ID: <Treble-220193083411@asc438.asc.slb.com>
Organization: ASC-Austin
PLEASE SAVE THIS FILE FOR FUTURE REFERENCE -- I'LL NOT POST IT
AGAIN!
When you turn on the Macintosh or press the reset button on the
programmers switch, several memory and system diagnostics take place. If
any test fails, the Sad Mac appears. The code number below it indicates the
nature of the malfunction.
The first two digits indicate the type of error. If it is a RAM test failure,
(first two digits - 02, 03, 04 or 05) the last four digits identify the
suspect
chips. The last four digits must be converted from hexadecimal numbers to
a 16 digit number to learn which chips are bad.
If the Sad Mac appears after the disk starts spinning, the first two digits of
the code number under the icon are 0F, and the next four digits indicate
the type of error. If you get a Sad Mac with an 0F code, try restarting the
Mac while holding down the Option and Command keys (rebuild the
desktop file.) You may also be able to fix a faulty startup disk by replacing
its System File.
The error 0F000D most likely means that you have something pressed
against the interrupt button on the programmer switch! (Move those books
anyway, you're blocking precious air flow into your Mac) The error 0F0064
means that the startup disk you have inserted (mounted) into the disk
drive is missing the system file.
Code Meaning
01XXXX ROM test
02XXXX RAM test-bus subtest
03XXXX RAM test-byte write
04XXXX RAM test-mod3 test
05XXXX RAM test-address uniqueness
0F0001 Bus error
0F0002 Address error
0F0003 Illegal instruction (may be a damaged system file)
0F0004 Zero divide error
0F0005 Check trap-CHK instruction
0F0006 Overflow trap
0F0007 Privilege violation
0F0008 Trace trap
0F0009 Trap dispatch error
0F000A Line 1111 trap
0F000B Other trap
0F000C Unimplemented trap executed
0F000D Interrupt button on programmers switch pressed in
0F0064 Bad System File
0F0065 Bad Finder
I'm no Mac super-guru. The above information was provided to me via
Apple Technical notes and various books and manuals I've read over the
years. I hope this helps someone.
John Treble
Schlumberger Well Services - Austin Systems Center
Austin Texas
treble@asc.slb.com "My humble, but accurate, opinion does not necessarily
reflect that of my employer. I get full credit for my insightful and witty
comments!"
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 10:14:56 MST
From: Jim Powlesland <powlesla@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Subject: SuperClock! 4.0.1
Bug Notice: SuperClock! 4.0.1 generates an unimplemented trap
error on Mac SEs running 7.0 + Tune-up 1.1.1. Also, the alarm
options do not work on a Mac IIfx running 7.0.1 + Tune-up 1.1.1.
Needless to say, I've gone back to 3.9.1.
I'm posting this here because the author, Steve Christensen, did
not provide an Internet email address in his ReadMe files. Great
program nonetheless.
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 09:07:36 EST
From: williams <williams@tours.inra.fr>
Subject: SuperClock 4.0.1
This is really intended for Steve Christensen (the author of
SuperClock) whom I can't reach directly as I don't know how to mail America
OnLine or Compuserve from Europe..... Hope you read Info-Mac, Steve!
Well, version 4.0.1 runs just fine on a Mac IIci with system 7.0.1 but
it crashes a PB 100 on startup because of an ID 12 error. Pity, because 4.0.1
was produced to get around other PowerBook problems.
BTW, version 3.9 works fine.
John Williams (INRA Station de Recherches Avicoles, C.R.Tours, Nouzilly,
France)
williams@tours.inra.fr
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 12:03:21 MEZ
From: David Steiner <DSTEINER@dosuni1.rz.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE>
Subject: The IIsi is no more????
Okay, maybe I was asleep when the news came down but...
A couple of issues ago (I'm always behind a bit) someone mentioned in the
context of a discussion of the sound problems with the IIsi that it would be
discontinued in Febuary.
I had heard that the IIci might be discontiued due to the introduction of the
V-series but I missed the discussion on the IIsi.
As I am getting ready to buy one of the two within the next couple of months,
I would appreciate some light on the subject.
As a follow-up, if the IIsi is indeed no more, what is the next comparable
alternative?
Thanks.
David R. Steiner
Research Assoc. - Remote Sensing & GIS
ISPA - Uni. Osnabrueck, Vechta Germany
------------------------------
Date: 25 Jan 1993 15:58:18 -0500 (CDT)
From: GG4921S@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU
Subject: Trailer for HyperCard XFCN
Archivists:
I am sending a file called bRead.hqx that contains a
hyperCard stack called binaryRead. binaryRead demonstrates a usefull XFCN by
the same name. binaryRead XFCN allows you to read the data fork of any file,
and return the data in a variety of formats: character, decimal ascii,
binary, hexadecimal, 2 byte integer or 4 byte integer. It was created by me
to file the "file" gap that exists in hyperCard and would be usefull for
anyone
wishing to read non ascii files.
Gordon Graber, Academic Computing, Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 12:17:43 MST
From: "Paul Gilmartin (303) 673-4428" <stortek!Paul_Gilmartin@csn.org>
Subject: UNIX utility to convert BinHex 4.0 files
On Wed, 20 Jan 93 13:33:40 -0500 you said:
> I was wondering if there is a UNIX utility to convert BinHex 4.0 files?
> I tried "mcvert", but in addition to converting a file from BinHex
> 4.0, it also converts the file to Macbinary format. I'd like to just
> convert a file from BinHex 4.0 to whatever it was originally -- e.g., a
> GIF file.
To extract the data fork from a MacBinary GIF file, you can use:
mcvert -Ud *.GIF.bin
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 23:13:08 GMT
From: L.H.Wood@lut.ac.uk
Subject: Word 5.0 printing graphics on StyleWriter
I've just had the scariest academic experience of my life - passing a
PostScript file through a multitude of Unix machines, spoolers and laser
printers in an attempt to get something looking vaguely like what I saw
on the Mac in my office/bedsit.
I have succeeded, but it's been a long (12 hour) haul to get my forty
page (not overdue at ALL!) report finished. And I have a perfectly good
StyleWriter sitting back in my bedsit, that I couldn't use.
Why not? I hear you cry.
Because that ***** Word 5.0 prints text beautifully on the StyleWriter,
but dumps graphics at screen-resolution of 72dpi. Ugh. Needless to say,
after preparing a report using Publish/Subscribe between Macdraw Pro and
Word 5.0, this was something of a shock. (P/S is very nice, by the way -
although Word only seems to update drawings 'on the fly' if MacDraw Pro
was launched first - is this normal?)
Of course, MacDraw Pro prints fine on the StyleWriter, so all my proofs
of the drawings were okay.
My questions:
Am I correct in believing that Word 5.0 cannot print graphics at a decent
resolution to the StyleWriter?
Is a fix available? (I tried fiddling with Print2Pict, and with publishing
the Word document to Macdraw Pro and Excel. No success)
Is this problem fixed in Word 5.1?
And, most importantly, WHOSE FAULT IS IT? Microsoft, I assume, but I'd
like to check before I flame flame flame.
Yours exhaustedly
Lloyd Wood
L.H.Wood@lut.ac.uk
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 11:05:49 -0700
From: panthony@CC.UTAH.EDU (Philip A. Thompsen)
Subject: Word 5.1 and System 7.1
I too have had problems with Word 5.1 with System 7.1. In particular, the
grammar checker tends to freeze up, and the spell checker was doing some
weird things. I called Microsoft tech support, and was told to try
removing the Word preferences file from my system folder (inside the
preferences folder). I did this, and things seem to be better now. I
still get an occasional hang, but not nearly as often. Perhaps the
preferences file gets corrupted somehow in the system/software upgrading
process. Anyway, try removing the prefs file (and letting Word create a
new one the next time you start it).
Philip A. Thompsen -- Department of Communication, The University of Utah
Philip.A.Thompsen@m.cc.utah.edu, BITNET:Panthony@UTAHCCA, Prodigy:JNFM97A
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 18:52:28 EST
From: Pete Tamas <GNOME%TEMPLEVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: WYSIWYG
> WYSISYG (pronounced Wizzy-Wig) stands for What You See Is What You Get.
> What does this mean? What you see on the screen is what your doc will look
> like when you print it (the font won't have different kerning or some other
> funky spacing.
>
Getting back to my comment a few days ago that language changes, I
note that in 1984 when the original Macintosh came out, WYSIWYG
meant that the font you chose was actually on the screen. Back then,
if you had a PC, you could with certain printers tell it which font
you wanted to use. It did not show on the screen, but you could use
it in the printed document. Seeing it on the screen was a dramatic
improvement. And, we had no idea what kerning was.
Pronouncing it Wizzy-Wig never seemed to catch on among hard-core
Mac users I know. Perhaps because that feature was assumed and
natural. Like PC users all being human, no one bothered to point it
out, but when one Mac user is a gorilla (Koko), we occasionally
point THAT out. ;-) -Pete Tamas
Gnome@VM.Temple.EDU, Temple Univ, Philadelphia (betw New York & Wash DC)
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